I have said this for a long time now (a couple of years actually) but PR or page rank is pretty inconsequential when it comes to your site’s ranking for search terms. The vast majority of bloggers and Internet marketers have continued to obsess over their PR however, believing that a high PR will somehow foster better rankings for their sites and pages. Not so and at one point my PR zero site ranked number 1 for one of the most competitive terms online. This did little to convince some of my readers that what I was telling them was true, rather they chose to believe that it must have been a glitch in the system or I had pulled some kind of sneaky “fast one”.
Well, for those of you who use webmaster tools you will now notice that Google has removed the Page Rank data from the Crawl Stats .
These stats used to show under "Crawl Stats" in Webmaster Tools
The Reason?
Susan Moskwa, a Google employee stated the following in Webmaster Central in reply to someone questioning the missing data;
We’ve been telling people for a long time that they shouldn’t focus on PageRank so much; many site owners seem to think it’s the most important metric for them to track, which is simply not true. We removed it because we felt it was silly to tell people not to think about it, but then to show them the data, implying that they should look at it.
This doesn’t mean that PR no longer exists – it does – it just means that G is trying to get webmasters to quit focusing on its relevance. (and quit trying to game the system in order to inflate their PR perhaps) The irony is that they haven’t removed it from the toolbar though. Strange given the reasoning – far more people use and see the toolbar than use webmaster tools. It should be removed from the toolbar too – but G won’t. The toolbar is their Brand and the home office knows that removing the PR from the toolbar will lead people to remove the toolbar which is removing Google from a lot of browsers…
Just thought you might like to reconsider your reliance on Page Rank – it really is a minor factor in serp rankings.
Cheers
Griz
Do my eyes deceive me? A new post on the freshly redesigned Griz site? Looks good by the way. Thanks for driving home the point yet again that it’s all about serps and not pr. Looking forward to your post about your findings on the latest serp restructuring.
Google doesn’t want us to sell PR as we have known for a long time so this is a smart move. They should do away with it on the toolbar next so that people are less inclined to buy and sell links.
Sorry. I sort of repeated what you said but I was in a hurry to try to get the first comment! Talk about a silly thing to be trying to do!
Is there going to be a post like I think you mentioned a while ago about where you have been and what you have been up to?
Hey there Griz.
Nice upgrade on the site… looks really good.
I like the branding magic going on.
I’ve noticed all kinds of strange things going on with Google over the last few weeks. Sites slipping and rising like a yo yo!
I’m sure you’ve been watching the MMO niche and lots of others. There is quite the shakeup going on all over.
Any idea if it’s slowing down and equalizing or is Google as schizophrenic as they appear to be.
I couldn’t care less about PageRank – been paying attention to your advice, and have been concentrating on building links.
Lately I’ve found the returns from Google are weird. Listings from search terms being mismatched to posts, posts not being indexed when I would have thought they would.
Any thoughts?
In any event, the blog looks fabulous.
cheers
Jim
Nope – your eyes are working fine Dave. My serp post is on hold until the serp update is finished – it looks like it started all over again this week – an interesting development to say the least.
Penny, All that and you still didn’t make number 1
As I said the serp update is still on hold. Btw – how did you two know I had posted anyway? I didn’t even twitter it yet! lol.
Jim – As you mentioned, G is a bit whacked at the moment. I’ve seen several posts not picked up from friends sites that should normally get indexed immediately (trusted sites and original content) but G has “no record”. Strange so I’m assuming that this “new algo” is still having the bugs ironed out. It would explain why the serp update has the appearance of starting over – things look identical to last month when it first started. The same sites are dropping in the same order and then slowly moving back up the serps.
No point in worrying over it though – we will just have to wait it out.
Griz could you expand on what you think a SERP update means? I am seeing the same fluctuations on my sites that you and others are reporting. But what is a SERP update? Does someone at Google hit F5 on their keyboard? What brings it about and why? Does it affect all niches at the same time? I am seeing the effects; I’d just like to better understand what is going on.
Thanks,
Greg
I love the new look! What happened to the uglier the better philosophy?
Hey Neena – long time.
I want to be just like Problogger!
and if you don’t buy that I am testing out a few other things. One of which is how much more or less Income I make with a pretty site…
I have been waiting for that post that you have been talking about for roughly three months now LOL
I don’t subscribe to RSSs so I have to check this blog every now and then.
This PR thing seems to be something that is hard for people to understand. I noticed it a while ago when I ranked a brand new domain #1 (a week after it was indexed) when I was against PR3 sites – I had the keyword as my domain and it seemed to be enough when combined with a couple of ezines, hubs and infobarrels.
What is your stand on the backlink juice when it comes to high PR sites? I still feel like the serp ranking is more important. If you have a site with pr2 ranking #1 for MMO, linking with an MMO anchor, it would give more juice than a site with pr5 that ranks shit for MMO but ranks highly for widgets – but is not an authority site – using the same anchor.
Hey Phil,
A high PR link will help you get a higher PR but if the link isn’t using your keyword in the anchor then it is worthless for serp ranking.
People assume because they have a PR5 site then they will rank well for whatever they write about. If they have no authority for the subject then they won’t. If they have authority then they will.
The thing is – authority comes from the keyword in the links that point to their site – not simply the PR of those linking sites.
This simple bit of knowledge is still misunderstood by just about everyone that claims to have some knowledge in SEO. A fact that makes life so much simpler for those who do understand it – obtaining keyword anchored links is all that is necessary for serp ranking. PR and the other 198 factors are nothing more than distractions and time wasters.
I have a question I’d like to ask you but since I feel that you are not going to answer it here, I will drop you an e-mail. I’ll send it from the e-mail address I used for this comment, so you can find it from your inbox if you are not too busy to drop me a short answer.
P
Hi Griz,
Long time reader, sometime commentator.
Very sharp site, Griz! But I too was wondering about the whole ugly is better motto. Or are you going for an “authority” site look?
Question for you though… you know you have a large following of readers and commentators. Why don’t you use who sees ads plugins? Or is your CTR so impressive that you don’t mind lowering it due to readers?
Hi Mariam,
I don’t want to skew the results by discussing what I’m looking for so I will hold off on what (other than adsense) it is I’m testing.
As for the who sees plugin – don’t need it. My readers don’t click on ads and CTR makes little difference. It’s the conversions that matter. I know from the past six months how many search visitors clicked on the old theme – now I will find out what ratio click on the new theme.
Nice new look Griz. I liked the woodsy theme too though.
Can I ask a basic q, *how* do you know how many search visitors click on the new theme? I’m using analytics but can’t seem to fine tune that one. Say vs. visitors from a linked site?
Sue – people coming from a link, a feed or bookmarks are all readers and don’t generally buy or click anything. The only traffic that does on a consistent basis is search traffic.
I know how much search traffic I get and what the ratio is as far a how many clicks per hundred based on a year of tracking it on the old theme. I will now compare that ratio with the results of this theme.
Griz, I read your response, thought about it, waited a day and I still don’t understand.
“As for the who sees plugin – don’t need it. My readers don’t click on ads and CTR makes little difference. It’s the conversions that matter. I know from the past six months how many search visitors clicked on the old theme – now I will find out what ratio click on the new theme.”
Maybe it’s because I’m so used to a 3% CTR rule. I think Vic mentioned once in an offhand comment that if your CTR is less than 3%, it’s bad. Therefore, I always associated 3% as being smart price territory.
Therefore, I’m confused why you say CTR doesn’t matter because you always stress not to write for social traffic since it will get you smart priced and I use 3% as my test line. We all agree that your regular readers don’t click on your ads (I’m assuming you’re talking about adsense because I see no other affiliates on this site).
If we are only talking about adsense how would you know if after the user clicks on an ad, it converts to an actionable event (buying, signing up, etc) on the end of the advertiser?
Thanks for all the lessons, Griz!
Hey Grizz,
Some of my sites have been all over the pace this month. Like you, I am just waiting to see how it all pans out in the end.
I agree completely with you about the relevance of PR. I have some sites that sit at the top of their niche with a big fat 0, while others have PR and are buried in the SERPs. It’s not the PR folks…it’s all about the links
Amen Tucson – don’t tell anybody though…
Griz,
I realize the PR on my sites means nothing in regards to my rankings. I have had my PR go up on sites and then actually go down in the rankings so I don’t put much stock in PR for ranking purposes.
My question is: are you better off to focus on getting links from higher ranking sites that appear to have authority versus getting anchored links from higher PR sites.
I think many have focused on trying to get links from PR 3, 4, and if you are fortunate PR 5 or above sites.
Thanks,
Medic
Hey Medic – nice to hear from you.
There are a few things I do differently from Mark and Court. Neither is better or worse. I have just concentrated on niches that have relatively low numbers of competing sites with the keyword anchors in their links.
The PR has never mattered to me because I always outrank high PR sites by simply getting more keyword anchored links. In many cases I have done it with nothing more than links from PR2 or less sites.
This isn’t to say that I could not have done it faster if I had spent the time looking for links from high PR sites – I probably could have but that is too much like work.
This isn’t to say that I could not have done it faster if I had spent the time looking for links from high PR sites – I probably could have but that is too much like work.
-Glad to know we are on the same page,lol.
Griz, so what about the Keyword Academy using PR as the sole factor on how to judge potential competition? I know its aimed at those who are first learning, but wouldn’t it be better to tell people to check number of backlinks with keyword in them?
MG and Medic – I kind of mixed your questions up but MG your answer is above. As far as which is better authority sites or just plain high PR sites – always go for the authority sites regardless of their PR.
Griz, Very refreshing! You picked a good theme. Really it’s time you turned “pro”.
I’ve seen many trying to imitate your success with the same theme as you are using, so let me do a little bit of whoring here.
Anyone who wants Grizz Theme, come and sign up with Elegant Themes in my blog!!
LOL!!! Hope this comment do not end up in the spam bin.
OK Costa I would just like to point out that I was not just whoring this theme but was in fact using it long before a certain bear found it LOL BTW Grizz you might want to hack the css a little to change colour so the links in content show up better
Hack? CSS??? I know you’re Kiwi/Ozzie but c’mon… English!!
Btw – then people would click on them and miss all our witty repartee…
Nice pitch there Costa! Let me know how that works out.
Wow there’s a new post here – amazing! And its pretty -does this mean you are starting the paid membership forum? RE the googlewebmaster thing -must admit I have logged onto it for months – does anyone use it still?
The G webmaster thing is more or less a useless waste of time – never use it myself except to see how G is ranking my keywords from time to time.
Not gonna affect me much. I know there are quite a few people who are still obsessed with the PR though despite what links people see coming into a site.
Hey Chewie – There you are. Just found your emails – took a few days off for the Canadian Thanksgiving but will be chatting soon.
Ahh good to know. Was thinking you got shot by a hunter or something.
Griz,
I totally agree with your observations on the lack of improtance of page rank. I have been working harder at getting those anchored backlinks from related sites to my MMO blog. Its a longer road sense now I am working backwards to build the foundation to my sites. Plus after learning how to do my inner linking the right way, I have had to go back and and redo tons of links to rank in the serps for my keywords. One step forward two back!
Denise – PR has been a red Herring for a long time now but useful in diverting others away from the real target. Sorry to hear or your trials but it will pay off in the long run.
Don’t be sorry for me. I am so excited that I finally after years of struggling and getting no place, have a clue as to what it is I need to do. It is exhilarating when you finally have a map to guide you.
I know you have been saying all along not to focus on page rank and to get those anchored backlinks but the approach I was using was so far removed that it is any wonder I was making any money.
Your post on your other make money online blog really brought it home for me.
Watch my smoke now!
Wow- big oouu-ahhh subjective response to the blues and the bear-mmo-grizzly graphics! ***Not*** ugly. LOL!
Snazzy huh? The Bear graphic is courtesy of my buddy Chewie over at the wookie site.
As a matter of fact – Chewie did you get that bit about Hacking the CSS? All Greek to me but I’m sure all you code monkeys understand each other even if Lissie speaks Ozzie…
Winner Winner Chicken Dinner… Alreay got it taken care of!
Thanks Chewie.
Fast enough for ya’ Lissie?
Wookies are the best – thought the Wookie had the best dialogue ever since I saw the frist (real) Star Wars film several eons ago!
Nice! What a wookie!
Love the new look! Did you by chance get the emails I sent today? If so hope to hear from you.
Hey Ken – Just found it. That will take a bit to answer which means it may be a while…
I know you are busy, but any help explaining this subject and I would do pretty much anything you asked (bows down – what is thy bidding my master).
I feel like this is my last hurdle to understanding all this.
Thank You Griz!
Where the hell am I? How did I get here? I was supposed to be on one of Grizzly’s sites.
There’s no place like home… There’s no place like home… There’s no place like home…
Sorry Fiar – This is Obama’s site.
Grizzly Who?
darn
I used to use PR as a “benchmark” before I dove into the linking schemes of sites.
More work for the lazy man, but I guess that opens up new opportunities for me and not for those still stuck on PR, less competition the better
It’s a funny thing about PR and even Alexa rankings – so many people assume they are benchmarks of successful sites and when I check them out I rarely see any comments (my benchmark for social sites) or top serp rankings. (My benchmark for top money makers)
How will people cope if PR completely goes by the wayside.
I hope that day doesn’t come until I’ve got a few authority sites under my belt
Then I can smack challengers away from my niches in my sleep.
The way I used PR was to gauge the rankings of the top ten, but lately it’s been suspicious as to why short tail sites are ranking with low PRs.
“Silly noob, PR IS the trick”
Hey Griz,
I like the look of your new ‘Elegant’ theme!
So “keyword authority” is what we should be aiming for, right? I’ve been trying to focus on writing really good keyword relevant posts, and have been trying to do a lot better with my linking, especially when it comes to using the proper anchor texts and paying attention to where I get the links from. (I’ve done a really poor job with this from the get-go, sad to say)
I’m now starting to understand that when you get keyword anchored text links they should come from sites or pages that relate to your content. You can get good pagerank juice from higher pagerank sites and pages NOT related to your content, but if the page you are getting links from is NOT related to your keyphrase then you will not gain much in the way of “keyword authority”, and thus you will not move up on the search engines, even though you may have good pagerank. It all has to match up to be truly effective and that is what you have demonstrated over and over again.
That is why an “authority site” that has been optimized with the same or nearly the same keywords as yours, and is viewed by the search engines as having keyword authority, can really fire up your keyword authority when you get a properly optimized keyword anchored text from them.
I hope I’m thinking on the right path now!? One of these days I’ll get it all together. haha.
Chris
Bingo Chris – you just described the most effective backlinks you can get. PR or no PR – it’s the authority and anchored link that matters.
Woah! A pretty site for Griz? I’m shocked! Shocked I say!
Seriously though.., looks pretty snazzy there Big Bear. It’ll be interesting to hear about how the G test works out for ya since adding such pretty colors and graphics. You’re well on your way now to become just like Problogger!
I understand about not paying attention to PR rank and such, but to focus on getting keyword backlinks from authority sites. Care to drop a few site names that work well? CNN? Wiki? ______??
Create your own…
Darn, I had another blond moment. I know exactly what you mean. Duh.
Very interested in hearing how the pretty vs. ugly experiment turns out.
A toast to Larry Page, er, Larry Page gets toasted.
Hey Norm – Old Larry just posted another massively profitable quarter for G. Unfortunately he is stuck in 26th spot in the Forbes ranking – maybe he needs more links to catch up with Bill and Warren?
OMG a new post and a new theme! What the hell has gotten into you Griz? LOL. I would say I missed ya but since you have been posting on MMOFB I guess that wouldn’t make any sense. Oh and yeah it’s about time they drop PR from webmaster tools. Dropping it altogether would be sweet but I agree that won’t happen.
Hey Trent – I just had to get a new post up. The experts tell me that you have to post often to build your brand – so reluctantly I am following their advice and keeping up a torrid 1 post every six months. I only hope I don’t over-saturate my presence…
Looove the shade of blue in the background.
Plus, I really hope that they don’t totally trash PR. Before I got into internet marketing I made most of my online income from selling links and posts with links on my personal blog. I still do when I’m strapped for cash and need it quick. Having decent PR is what gets me a decent pay check when I do it!
Wordvixen – and that is exactly why PR has become irrelevant. I don’t blame you – Google brought it on themselves. They complain that people game their system doing exactly what you are doing and yet they don’t dump it…
Holy crap. I thought I went to the wrong blog or some A-lister just hacked into your account or something! hehe
I have a PR 4 that ranks nowhere. I have a PR 1 dominating a small niche and making me 1000 times more than the PR 4.
Congrats on the new look, Griz. and Thanks a lot for everything!!!
Thanks Sherwin.
Griz:
NICE WP Theme! I know… I don’t like change too much either, but there are exceptions — especially when conducting… oh, let’s call them experiments?
Screw the PR! When a person gets all hung up on PR and their site(s) attaining PR, better judgment may become impaired and the quality of content and linking may be compromised.
As mentioned several times in these comments, getting keyword anchored back links from sites with trust authority provide the best results.
Now as for the matter of Webmaster Tools Drops Page Rank, I hope this turns the light bulb on for the “unbelievers”? If not, oh well! That’s their problem…
BTW: Another noteworthy observation/change in the Google Webmaster Dashboard. Did you notice the “Labs” tab? It provides a “Fetch as Googlebot” and “Malware details” option for any given URL… Hmmmmm
Be good!
~Scooter Out
Hi Scooter
I saw the Labs – a beta testing ground it seems. Not sure I see any use for it yet – will keep an eye though.
BTW: How do I get a pic/avatar in the profile post box?
Ya’ know – I haven’t got a clue. Seem to remember having to upload a pic to some bloody site at some point long ago. Maybe some of my more socially adept readers can fill us in.
gravatar.com – it has to match the email addy you use to comment.
Thanks Lissie – I had a hunch that was the site but it would have meant checking…
What took you so long?
Terribly sorry Griz -was off dancing – important stuff!
You meant dancing “and” important stuff? Like what?
I’m getting intrigued as to just how far this theme can next columns before we end up with one letter a line.
Grizz its the West Australia Open Dancesport Champs next week – like that President’s Cup thing – but much more important and less well paid!
Getting skinnier and skinnier… I love a challenge…
Oh yeah, Hi Griz I was waiting for you to post something on here so I could comment.
The little box you type things in is getting very narrow too. It is not even wide enough for most words.
Get thin for free? Sign me up? Is that a buying keyword?
Now more skinny! How skinny can it go!
I am replying to myself!
I girl loves to be skinny particularly for free
Nowe lost the reply button. Damn I can’t see what I am typing so there might be some errors here. I think we hit the maximum with threaded comments here.
Hey Griz,
I already usually ignore PR for the most part anyway simply because I have no idea how it’s worked out or what it’s actual purpose is other than to brag to your buddy about the size of your (um) webpage.
See … sometimes it pays to be untechie.
And I used to think that while it didn’t actually help your own rankings, getting a link from a high pr page was better than getting a link from a low one.
Of course I know better now.
In fact sometimes it surprises me when I rank high for a competitive keyword with just a few anchored links from a handful of other sites (some of my own, some article directories, some web 2.0 sites).
Anyway, I don’t have a question, just wanted to say hi.
Your ‘other’ aussie friend.
Tracey
Hi right back at ya’ Tracey! Stop in and say “Hi” anytime you like.
Hi Griz, on the one hand i agree that PR value is way overstated. However when you aquire/swap the number of links that i do you often dont have the time to do an indepth analysis of the site. Check the site is indexed, whats the PR? Next!
Thanks P
That’s one more step than me Paul.
what is Keyword Authority? backlink from authority site with anchor keyword on same niche..sorry..noobie here
@hauntedgold:
The term “authority site” is a connotation for a sites trust rank in the search engines. Essentially it is a link analysis technique used for semi-automatically separating useful web pages from spam. You can discern whether a site has trust rank by doing a keyword search in the search engines and looking at the search engine page results.(SERPS)
Looking at the search results page, look below each link. If you see a little box with a “+” in it, and after that box it states: “Show more results for… [the specific URL you are looking at] then that specific web site or blog has trust rank.
Example: Google “Liss Sowerbutts” ["Lissie" from above comments] and you will see this little box as I described. What this means is that the URL lissowerbutts.com has attained “trust rank” with the Google search engine.
As such, whenever possible it is very beneficial if you can attain back links from sites that have attained the trust rank status.
~Scooter
What exactly they trust Lissie with is a mystery though…
Shish is the quality content I provide – not to mention the pretty theme! (Though 100,000 SBI trolls tend to disagree!)
Wow, I no longer want to gouge my eyes out as I look at this blog. Nice improvement!
I still haven’t updated the “SEO For Firefox” toolbar that displays the page rank to the new one that displays “mozrank” and “moztrust” instead, but I’m thinking I’ll do that soon to experiment if those metrics actually mean anything at all.
Have you played with that recently?
Brawny – the new SEO for Firefox is pretty buggy. It doesn`t show any stats for a lot of sites and says “unrankable”?? WTF?
The Moz crap is just that – crap. All those SEO types and their BS useless tools. Lots of bells and whistles that don`t mean a thing when it comes to serp rankings. Just more stuff to sell to the SEO customers that get sucked in by all the stats.
What a bunch of smart arses! lol
Ok – I kinda wondered how skinny the nesting would get too but thought I would be part of it… Sheesh – take the day off and the kids start playing…
Iguess bears arent’ that skinny – I got another one in before you nah nah!
Oh you are quick – I`ll give ya that. So what is going to happen when I set the “maximum” nesting levels back to 5 hmmm? You all might get so skinny you disappear…
You’d lose all that extra content and you know in your darkest heart that content is king …
Are we shooting for 200 comments here or what?
201 actually…
BTW: Griz:
I didn’t forget about your trust rank. Just had to figure out what search term to enter to get “G” to display it.
I tried make money online. Make money online with Adsense. And a couple others too… Finally, I entered “make money online, griz” and there you be! The big “G” listed:
1- Make Money With Adsense.
2- How to Make Money Online for Beginners.
3- How to Make Money Online for Beginners: SEO Software and Link Building.
Then displayed was “Show more results from makemoneyforbeginners.blogspot.com”
Interesting that only specific keyword tails will get the trust rank symbol…
New at online marketing and your blog really helps! – Thank you!
Nice theme Griz,
I saw your new post in my reader but when I showed up to read it I thought I must be in the wrong spot. It just looks so snappy and touchy, feely.LOL.
Keyword anchored post titles and links are beating PR5 and PR6 on my end. I’m glad I listen to the real SEO Guru.
Thanks
I’m gonna take complete credit for inspiring the pretty theme! Admit it, it was my pretty theme that made you make a pretty theme =D!
Question about anchored links..does the whole site have to be related or just the page you’re linked from? IE does my post on making money wedding planning give you and court any link juice when the basic site is about wedding planning and only that post is about making money?
Hey Griz,
Yes, I agree that PR is nothing more than an indicator of your site’s authority but does nothing to improve rankings. I think a lot of people have trouble separating “authority” from “search engine placement by keyword.”
Anyway, I like this theme from Elegant. I use this one as a static for lead generation sites, works well with just very little content and either an email submit form or a 1-800 number. This theme with just a few hundred words of content can rank very well for KW terms, thus proving the point of your other post on your make money online site about SEO and links.
AL
@Allyn You got #1 thru #5 with 2 authority listings for “make money online griz”, ahead of Griz himself. Cool!
Hi Grizz,
Sorry, this is kind of noob question. Let me steal some of your hidden aces
What is an authority site & how do you identify/determine an authority website? Is there any parameters/metrics/indicators that we can use to find/know them?
I think you already mention them somewhere in your post from one of your blogs, but I can’t remember it clearly and its explanation is too general I guess.
Best Regards,
Epo
(your long time silent reader)
“The toolbar is their Brand and the home office knows that removing the PR from the toolbar will lead people to remove the toolbar which is removing Google from a lot of browser” …
so the day chrome takes majority of the browser market,i think toolbar is going to the coffin.what do you say Grizz?And i am very surprised by the looks of this blog?It is amazing.I wish this blog was as ugly as your other MMO blogger blog
cheers
Hi Griz – I actually have a question. Do comments count at all in helping sites move up the SERPS ? Like if you get a pile of comments with your keyword in them – does G count the comments ?
Hey Grizzly,
Great to see you have a new site here man. Will you get this on the first page of G for “Make money online” as well?
I love every post you make man. You are down to earth and give it as it is. I must tell you I have a few sites ranking well and I learned most of what i now know from you over at http://makemoneyforbeginners.blogspot.com/
hi Griz,
So, PR is not that really important after all. And the new trends are cool template, new branding and more backlinks… got it!
Danng, now I need to change my ugly template… lol
btw, I <3 the colour of this site…
I still don’t see the little + sign that you all are talking about. When I enter “make money online, griz” I don’t even see the “Show more results from makemoneyforbeginners.blogspot.com”.
Where exactly is this trust rank indicator?
I don’t see it using Chromium and Firefox.
Carlos
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Hey Grizzly man I love your website its very informative you did a great job putting it together. In regards to Google page-rank I think it is pretty important still, but I agree you shouldn’t waste all your time trying to build backlinks. I think the main portion of your time should be spent on adding quality content for your Blog, or website. If you do the backlinks will fall into place. Great post!
hi Griz,
Hey I was wondering, for Blogspot blogger, is it a bad thing to submit to webmaster-tools.
Anyway , I learned a hell of a lot from you. Thank you for all that, really I meant it – sorry about the name (you’ll know)
I dont think PR is of huge imprtance when it comes to serps. I mean i have out ranked sites with higher pr and sites with lower or no pr have beaten me! I think pr is only a good indicator for doing link exchanges. Jason