My inbox is once again flooded with crap – this time selling more junk called Total Traffic Annihilation. I have been wondering what to do with this site and finally decided to use it to simply out all the would-be Internet marketers selling shit to other would-be internet marketers. Since Total Traffic Annihilation is the latest piece of crap being launched on clickbank or better known as crapbank by those who have been around a while I’ll start with it.
If you are a beginner then pay attention.
Internet Marketing Product Developers are just that. They make money online by continually repackaging one or several components necessary for selling online. These components are 1) Traffic Generation, 2) List building, 3) Sales Copy, 4) Web Site building, 5) Content Generation, 6) Search Engine Optimization, 7) Backlink Generation. In most cases they develop automated tools (software) to do the above. Each time they release the latest greatest method to instant wealth you can be sure that they have simply repackaged one or more of the above with a new “twist”. Many don’t even bother to do that.
These developers do not and never have made a dime using any of the products they produce. They make money by enticing the hoards of clickbank noobs to sell their product for them to people who are even less experienced than the clickbank noobs.
Six months later the developer comes up with yet another latest greatest method to get rich and the process begins all over again.
Ask yourself this – if the product does what it claims then…
1) why sell it in the first place? Keep it to yourself and make millions using it. Wouldn’t you?
2) why are the clickbank noobs selling it? Again if it is so great and they own a copy why aren’t they using it to make money instead of promoting it to others? (Answer – they didn’t buy it – they are just selling it)
3) what happened to the last great get rich quick product that was released last month, six months ago, last year etc? How could it be so wonderful then and no longer on the map today?
If you Google “Total Traffic Annihilation Review” you will see pages of fake bullshit reviews as all the clickbank noobs vie for top spot in the serps. There is not a single real review among them. Not one. Everyone of them is praising a program that they haven’t even seen – it doesn’t get released until today – and of course offering the ever popular bonuses in order to get you to buy through their link and not someone else. Btw – the bonuses are almost always crap PLR products that are 1) useless and 2) available for free if you do a little Googling. (Don’t bother – as I said they are crap)
And who am I to tell you this… I’m the guy who invented fake reviews. I started this whole sorry mess years ago and have regretted it ever since. It’s how I got known online – not the fake reviews so much but when I started telling people the truth when readers asked.
And how can I review Total Traffic Annihilation without seeing it myself? Simple. Experience and common sense.
The guy who created it – Steven Johnson – has a history of products on clickbank. More rehashed stuff like “Sales Letters Creator”, “Elite Money Maker”, “The Quick List Formulas”, “The Next Affiliate Idol”. Are they scams? Not really. Just more of the same regurgitation of basic marketing principles than are constantly repackaged and sold to the latest group of beginners who get it into their mind that they want to make a living online. The problem is – everything you need to know about internet marketing has been said countless times before and is available for free. I should know – I’ve provided it.
In a month from now Total Traffic Annihilation will be collecting virtual dust on countless noob hard drives where it will never see the light of day and the developer will be offering another sure thing. Pass on it if you are smart.
And just so they know they are scum and should be ashamed of themselves here are the sites dutifully no-followed that sit on page one of the serp’s offering up their fake reviews of the product…
Fake Total Traffic Annihilation Review 1
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Fake Total Traffic Annihilation Review 3
Fake Total Traffic Annihilation Review 4
Fake Total Traffic Annihilation Review 5
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Fake Total Traffic Annihilation Review 7
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Fake Total Traffic Annihilation Review 9
Fake Total Traffic Annihilation Review 10
Should you click on any of those links you will find most of the sites use pop unders to further piss you off while trying to escape. Morons. Oh and almost every site has a bad reputation on WOT (Web of Trust)
Alright… for my old friends
I have left this site sit for some time now as I’ve been busy with other projects but it seems a shame not to use it. To that end I will open it up to any and all of you who are interested in guest posting. It has a little juice which should grow with use and you will have your posts on the home page long enough to benefit. I am interested in anything related to IM, real reviews, software etc. You know the community and what will benefit us – no posts about your un-related niche sites please. Once it picks up I will share the revenue with everyone who contributes. Just email me your post and we’re good to go. Original content only.
In other news, no secret I will be starting lessons shortly on the new IM site as soon as I finish re-posting the MMOFB content on grizzlybrears.com. I’m about 1/4 done – bloody tedious job – and will then find a use for that site as well. I want to see how G treats it before making plans. As many of you know I have basically distanced myself from the whole IM crowd as my client work has occupied my time for most of the last year or so. I have now hired a few assistants to do the basic day in day out stuff and hope to have more time for the IM sites going forward. I must admit I have missed yakking with you all – looking forward to finding out what has been happening.
Cheers,
Griz
Wow, way cool, Griz.
Not nice to see the IM yada yada, but it is nice as ever to see you roaring forth on the noble white horse of truth.
Rock on!
Hey Jo,
Lol. Had to use something to kick start this old site. G indexed the Twitter feed lickety split… now to see how the domain does. Thanks for stopping in – wasn’t sure how the comment form would work as I have been hacking away at this theme for a few days. Boring or what?
What a pleasant surprise to see this blog updated! And a great post as always. It’s good to have you back around on these new (and old) blogs of yours. You have been missed. I will add this blog to my ever growing list of those to write guest posts for that I never get around to doing. Anyway, stick around this time. Your faithful followers don’t like going months without any word from you.
Trent
Oh I’m around but I wanted to let things hibernate while I concentrated on my more lucrative projects. I have basically retooled my entire network(s) and developed a growing client base of consulting work of which none of it encompasses the IM field. I’m just getting around to the Griz sites now and hopefully can spend some time with them. As much as I hate the MMO niche it did get me noticed and has led to a lot of work in the legit marketing world. Your guest posts would always be welcome old friend… if you get around to writing them.
Well, probably better to do it in the Winter than when the golf course is green! LOL!
Don’t mention Golf… I’m in withdrawal and in need of a round…
Hey Griz, are you going to touch on what happened with the old blogspot blog? I’ve read alot of people saying that you were testing something. I’m assuming from this post that you no longer want to use a free platform for your “stuff” as they aren’t reliable and you moved it to a website you have full control over? Do you plan on ranking for the keyword “make money online” again?
Also, I have one quick question. “What would Grizzly do…” if he had made it to postion 51 for a 2 word competitive keyword in google’s serps after a year and a half of work. I’m kind of at a loss right now. The highest i’ve made it was to position 22 then a month later it dropped 20 spots or so and I’ve been fighting two or three spot increases and decreases since.
Hi Red
I will discuss the demise of MMOFB but will need to find a less incriminating forum for what transpired. In short though it was a manual penalty and not the result of the algo as I first thought. I just can’t say what I did openly or I may get slapped again. I was told not to do something about 18 months ago and I did it anyway recently – seems they were still watching…
As for blogger – I still use it but not for any of the spam niches as I once did.
As for your question – send me an email with your keyword and I’ll be able to give you a better answer.
I’ll never understand this golf! You hit the ball once, then spend most of your time going to see where it landed… well, it’s kinda like IM – you set up a website, but you have no idea if it’s going to land in the gold pot. Table tennis is much better in my view – you know what you’ve done and get your reward (if any) almost instantly.
Nice to see you writing again, Griz! If I manage to write something worth of getting published here, I’ll send it to you.
Well Simonne the point of golf is not to hit the ball once but 72 times or less and if you have to spend time finding it after you hit it then you should probably take up Table Tennis.
Having said that I wasn’t able to play a round in under 74 this year… damn! But there is always next season…
Glad you dropped in and I hope all is well.
I hit it about 72 times on EVERY hole and spend most of the time looking for my ball. Golfing is fun but it’s clear that I will never be good at it.
LOL! The best part of golfing is the 19th hole …
Grizz, should I email you using your the mts.net email?
It’s changed – brears@mymts.net
Our local ISP sold out and joined livemail hence the “my” bit. And the spam has flowed ever since.
Email sent, the subject says “Hey Grizz its Red” or something like that. Wasn’t sure if you wanted the keyword in the subject or not. I know you must get a crap load of mail.
Grizz, It’s funny you mention table tennis – It’s a great game, and believe it or not Simonne has actually challenged me to match when we get to Romania.
It’s great to see you back – I didn’t realise it was client work, thought you were busy playing golf!
Joomla
I’m actually not bad at Ping Pong myself – does any one else call it that? I have a couple of your emails sitting here – just haven’t got down to writing a reply yet. I will though. Yes clients… several who like to play golf so I was doing both!
Hey Griz, that’s cool! You could meet JoomlaBear and I in Romania for a match of Ping Pong (yes, I also call it like that)
Simonne – Ping Pong it is! Do you have a golf course handy in case I get my ass kicked on the table? I’ve heard Romania is much safer these days as all your Vampires have left to pursue acting careers in the States.
lol, Griz, we’ve got a nice golf course just a short drive from Bucharest, so you’ll have your chance to get even
. Don’t worry about those vampires, the ones that haven’t leave for the States yet don’t like bear blood, you’ll be perfectly safe.
Hey Griz,
Cool review. Would love to see some SBI wrath again … that was fun. Ah, the memories. Too bad Lis is on holidays or we could get her rolling on it too. lol.
Any chance you are going to expound on your “client work?” Would love to hear what your are doing as a way of diversifying your income.
Hey Strathy,
SBI… hehe yes that was fun. As for Lis she has checked in a few times while lying on the beach in Thailand so I imagine we might hear from her.
As for the client work – you’ll hear quite a bit. The work I have been doing with them is the basis for the new IMLessons site. They have nothing to do with MMO or the IM niche. Just straight up legit business sites and how I’ve tackled them – no tricks, no black hat or shades of grey. I hope to show you how the new algo is actually making life easier.
Nice to hear from ya’
It is nice to know that you are passionate about the noobs IM. Thanks for taking time and effort to educate those willing to learn. I would have been rip off some years ago, but your articles opened my eye. Keep up the good works. Cheers.
Have to agree with your take on the pop ups/unders/overs/pop tarts – my goodness, that’s not marketing, that’s just obnoxious. It’s like using a bare naked photo to sell cereal.
Hm…that might work, actually. (Don’t recommend that, but if you think about it, what DID Tony the Tiger have on? A neckerchief? Resting my case…)
Now I’m piqued about your experiment with these business sites and client work. Where is the follow up to that going to be (actually, that’s moot…RSS…doh!).
Funny that you mention the consulting stuff. I don’t really talk on here much at all but have been following you forever. I took the lessons I learned from here to dominate my region for my business. Without what you told me I would have never been able to do it.
Thanks.
If you’re ever in the Pacific Northwest and want to get 18 in, let me know. I’ll take 3 a side.
Junctown,
I’m a 6 handicap so unless you’re a 12 or worse we’ll have to discuss the strokes…
Funny you mentioned “regions”… that’s the key with most of my clients. If you fix furnaces in Tacoma you don’t need to rank well nationally or worldwide. G has made a lot of improvements with the algo – locally and by time frame. It’s made things much easier in many niches.
I’ll take you up on the golf if I get out that way – one of my brothers lives in B.C and we usually golf Kelowna or the Kootenays – love it.
Hi Grizzly (and company),
Following grizzlybrears.com led to internetmarketinglessons.ca assuming the latter will be where you post your upcoming lessons, is that a fair assumption? Simply asking because I want add the feed to my reader
On that note, is that your first dot-ca? If no, I would really love to hear about your experience with dot-ca versus dot-com in an apples to apples comparison… do they rank as well?
Nice to see all this activity, like everyone else I miss the straight goods.
Regards,
Ross
Ross,
internetmarketinglessons.ca will be the site for the lessons.
As for .ca I have no trouble ranking them and have been using them for some time now, both for my sites and for Canadian and American clients. As the TLD for Canada it has no baggage ala .info etc. Two advantages: you can still get some pretty good keywords with it and only Canadians can get them so competition is limited. Apple to Apple I have many outranking .com sites and more than a few at #1. I have a Florida Condo Rental on a .ca domain and it is currently page 1 for a number of competitive terms. Took two months with no funny business so I advise using them if you qualify.
Good to see the new post and that you’re not going into hibernation permanently. I know your blog was one of the first that helped me get started when I was looking for a way out of unemployment, and I appreciate everything you’ve shared with us. Glad to hear the new directions are proving lucrative, and good to see ya’ around. Take care, and thanks for the update!
You are welcome Shane and glad to see you are still at it.
“CLIENTS!” Does that mean working for someone? Answering to someone else?
What is this world coming to?
Griz having all these wordpress blogs!
I always thought evolution took a little longer.
I am not ready for so many changes at once.
You are doing a lot better with these Elegant themes than I am.
Missed the hell out of you too!
Denise
Great to hear from you. The clients were something I avoided for a long time – mostly people who wanted me to help rank their “payday loan” sites etc… no thanks. And then a few small businesses contacted me and I thought what the hell. And then a fairly large media network offering a pretty good chunk of change and then word of mouth from them and things have grown substantially. In most cases I consult and they do the work so it hasn’t been as bad as I feared.
As for WP – still hate it. Spend more time fiddlin’ with themes than content creation and am forcing myself to learn PHP which really sucks. Btw – RT (Untwisted Vortex) is planning some CSS and PHP lessons for beginners soon which I will announce for those looking for a little help. I actually prefer using plain old HTML static sites these days for most projects as I get the best results from them. I rarely use blogs at all now aside from those already in the stable.
As for Elegant themes – same old story – beautiful themes designed by a “web designer” and not an Internet marketer and a nightmare to optimize. Plain, boring, simple or ugly (call it what you want) but functional sites have been and still are the most effective way to convert traffic.
Really nice to have you stop in Denise and I hope things are going well for you.
Grizzly,
Until your friend RT is up and running, here is a CSS resource that you and others may find helpful, it’s a little easier to digest than most technical writings (at least I think so)… https://www.cssbasics.com
So much of a WordPress theme comes back to CSS, I almost think it’s more important to master that before PHP.
But I hear you regarding the popular theme vendors, they are getting more complicated (and bloated) that it’s becoming necessary for everyone to have at least basic PHP skills. That said, it’s surprising how much can be done by commenting out code, moving code, and getting comfortable with tags and parameters (see WordPress Codex).
On a side note, I would be interested in your (everyone’s) choice of plug-in for generating meta tags and rewriting titles… any suggestions not including the big bloated SEO plug-ins?
I have been using head-meta and wp-title for some time but I’m always on the lookout for others.
Regards,
Ross
Thanks Ross,
I have plodded about at CSSbasics in the past and they are useful if you are a programmer or want to be one… not so great if you are a marketer looking for some quick fixes. RT is both so hopefully he can cut to the chase so to speak. In case that doesn’t make sense – I don’t really want to learn PHP, CSS, HTML – I just want to hack and slash, cut and paste things quickly to get what I want done and move on to what I do best – marketing. My ignorance has no defense as I really should learn it properly but my eyes glass over and I start thinking about whether I would use a draw or cut on the 13th hole at Augusta…
These bloated themes are most annoying – I like the meta widget but wtf, do I have to send WP a link? You need a PHD to figure out how to get rid of the damn thing without removing the whole widget en mass. Core files!!! Sheesh. That’s the kind of stuff I want to know – simple little alterations, remove this, add that. You mention the SEO plug ins – I’ve used several and don’t like any. In truth I build simple HTML static sites because I can control every pixel on the page and do it quickly and get the results I want every time. Every blog I have is deficient in at least one area simply because I can’t figure out how to fix the damn thing myself and I’m tired of bugging friends to do it for me.
End of rant….
Thanks Ross. I needed that. (Can you guess I just spent the last two hours losing a battle with a theme that just refuses to let me have a header the way I want. lol)
Hey Griz
What about just buying a professional theme like thesis, itheme builder or Frugal – which they have updated to Catalyst? It kicks butt and it has like 600 options for every aspect that you could need for a website to do. Best part, zero programming.
After a lot of research, I went with Frugal. I can make my websites all look completely different and unique, even pages.
If you go for any of those professional themes, there is always a learning curve and it will take most people a few weeks to get used to things. But, if you do or any of your readers go with these, practice on a test site first.
BTW – I am like you about the programming. I really don’t want to have to do it if I can avoid it.
Cheers
Hey Griz!
It’s always such a hoot to hear from you and find out what you’ve been up to.
Love your new site. I was almost ‘fooled by the dazzling good looks’.
Jo Ann
Hi Jo Ann
Great to see you are still around as well – been a while. As you know I am the leading edge of “dazzling good looks” when it comes to blogs…
Hey Grizzly,
I read your review on TTA, but was disappointed to see a link to my review as being a “scam review”. I have access to this product, read through the book and watched some (not all) of the videos.
My review explains this product is more for new marketers who are not familiar with these traffic generating methods. Many of us experienced marketers see these products and immediately think it’s a rehashed piece of junk.
That’s like saying car companies should not change the styles of their cars every year. Everything under the hood is still the same as it was over the past year or so. Just cosmetics have changed and maybe a few additional features.
The same goes with many of the Clickbank products and TTA is a great example. I earn a full time income online marketing affiliate products (90% of my income is NOT from Clickbank, but from Amazon, CJ.. ect)
I would recommend TTA to any new marketer who needs help with getting traffic to their site. Sure there are other products that may teach many of these methods, but TTA puts 27+ traffic methods in one digital e-book, PLUS it’s loaded with 6 bonus sections with videos.
I have to say that I would have gladly paid upwards to $100 for this product when I first started marketing online in 2000.
Anyways, I just wanted to share my honest opinion and I would greatly appreciate it if you would remove my link from the “scam links”.
Thanks!
Chris Derenberger
Forty Bucks!! The problem is, that’s at least 4 domain names I could buy… and the noobs don’t know that, and don’t know that half those “methods” won’t work (JV my arse). They could learn what works and doesn’t work among those “27+ traffic methods” – i.e., don’t waste your time on social marketing, etc. – for FREE.
Why rip off beginners like this? On a regular basis? Always more beginners to rip off!
Chris,
On the good side, you seem to be a decent fellow, well spoken and willing to be held accountable. Kudos – that speaks volumes.
However, what you are doing is not intended to help beginners. Your prime motivation is to simply make a few bucks off of people who don’t know any better. TTA offers nothing that can’t be found online for free. If you were really concerned about helping new marketers down the right path you could simply explain the basics to them – for free – as I have.
Your site is an endless series of Sales Pitches – not reviews. An Honest review of a product or service would discuss alternatives (point them to the free sources), show your results accumulated over weeks/months of using the product yourself (actually use it to prove that it accomplishes what you say it does), explain what the product will not accomplish (they will not buy it and suddenly start making money) – IM is far more complex than buying something, implementing it and watching the cash roll in. It’s a process that involves everything I mentioned in the post and neither you nor anyone else can point me to any single product ever sold that actually lays a golden egg. Not once in all the years I’ve been at this has a reader sent me a comment or email stating that they finally found a stand alone/ no experience needed (ie. beginner) – product/system sold on clickbank that really does make them money. If it existed we would all know about it.
To my knowledge Chris the only system that should be recommended to beginners or even experienced marketers belongs to Court and Mark at the Keyword Academy. They explain the whole system, they use it themselves and their students see results and show proof. And anyone can spend a month testing it for free. You want to help beginners? Send them there.
Chris you have put a lot of time into your site and yet you have little to show for it – no comments? A little disheartening huh? The sad truth is your site is indistinguishable from all the other sites floating along the Web Sewers as my friend Splork likes to call it. Aren’t you a bit embarrassed when you look at the serp page I mentioned (the TTA fake reviews) and realize your site is exactly the same as all the rest? People who end up on your site know it and you know it too. Just another blog flogging crap and offering nothing of substance. I sense that you have the ability to do far better.
You have a post on your site gushing about Rob Benwell??? C’mon… You have the talent to do more than what you are doing. Put it to use. Start providing real help to people and you will be shocked at the response you get. Write something genuinely useful and I will be the first to laud your efforts and link to it (properly). You want me to remove the link on this post? I will as soon as you give me a reason.
I’d love to help you Chris. Turn over a new leaf and I will.
Great! This page answers two questions I asked on one of your other sites, lol. Note to self: Next time I’ll read more before I ask.
Griz…
I’m happy to know that your hiatus from the MMO sites is due to a demand for your services. That’s awesome!
I’m really looking forward to understanding the “new” algo in your teachings at internetmarketinglessons.ca, and I’m grateful you take the effort to thwart-off the evil bastards who try and sell junk like Total Traffic Annihilation.
BTW: Not that you need my help, but I thought I’d give you a little love from my latest post at Backlinks For SEO.
Take Care
~Scott
Wow, Grizz. Nice to have you back. I never commented much (or maybe not at all) but I’ve always been a fan. You’re like the beacon of truth in the sea of mud.
Sigh, funny how Google penalizes the truth but let the shits float. Maybe they discovered that shit in SERPS are better for increasing their Adwords CTR.
Anyway, whats MMOFB?
Thanks Ryan
MMOFB = make money online for beginners…
Hey Griz,
Good to see you posting again.
I haven’t read all the ‘reviews’ about TTA, heck I hadn’t even heard about TTA (I unsubscribed from most guru’s newsletters ages ago).
I know – what sort of Internet Marketer am I that I don’t even know the latest ‘must have’ product. No wonder I don’t make any money online
Tracey
Tracey
How’s my favorite stalker doing? You mean you can find my sites before I have a post on them but you don’t track all the latest get rich quick crap? Tsk Tsk…
Hi Griz
So, I am curious about what is the difference between promoting Google Adsense vs offering products for the Internet Marketing or Make Money Niche?
In other words, when you rank organically for a keyword and put Adsense on it, you are hoping people are going to click on your Adsense ad to make money. Yet, when you look at many of those adsense ad’s, they seem pretty spammy and misleading to me just the same as many internet marketing products.
Cheers
Sorry Darrell nice try but doesn’t work.
Nowhere on here am I “promoting” anything shown in the Adsense ads – just using it.
It’s passive – I don’t recommend my readers buy anything on the ads or even click them for that matter. Actively trying to rank for a product and then endorsing it is another matter. If you click an ad and then purchase something which turns out to be crap you do not hold me accountable for recommending it to you – I didn’t. If you buy something I recommend and it turns out to be crap then you do hold me accountable. Big difference.
And as for the “spammy and misleading” ads…
I see one selling a Laptop. One for the University of San Francisco and one advertising a Private Jet rental service. If you see something different its because of G serving up Geo targeted and interest based ads. The ads I see aren’t spammy – if the ones you see are then change your browsing habits.
I know you are trying to infer that because we are all trying to make money online then we are all guilty of the same tactics. On reflection do you really believe I am trying to take your money for a useless product like the people flogging TTA?
Cmon’…
Hey Griz
I was curious on your opinion only in regards to ranking for organic terms and displaying adsense on them.
My intention was not to infer you would recommend a crappy product. I have more respect than that for you. Otherwise, I would not be following and reading your information for the past 2 years.
Thanks for the response – Cheers
My apologies Darrell – seems we (I) got our wires crossed. Thanks for setting me straight.
Hey Grizz, glad to know you’re back, don’t ever leave us for so long again, ha. You don’t know me as I rarely comment but I read your MMOFB blog, every word of it. I hope you begin to post more often as I’ve statistically proven that I’m more productive (i.e. get more backlinks) when you post.
Gilles,
Didn’t know I was that motivational… watch out Tony Robbins!
Hi Grizz,
I’ll echo all the others … it’s great to see you posting again.
I really don’t follow “Internet Marketing” stuff any more. As you said above, it’s pretty much all the same rehashed crap.
That said, I’m still infinitely thankful that I was fortunate enough to meet a few of the “good guys” a few years back .. that would be people like you, and Lissie, and Josh, and Allyn, etc.,
Looking forward reading some of your new stuff. Although, let’s be honest, if I’m not capable of figuring most of it out on my own by now, I probably never will be. (and I suspect the same could be said for the majority of your readers).
In any case, it’s nice to have a “community gathering spot” back up and running again.
Thanks for doing what you do.
Todd
Hey Todd
Nice to hear from you as well. I agree, can’t stand the IM selling to IM crap either but have missed the hanging out at the water cooler discussions we all had. Shame to let this site go to waste so figured we may as well use it to stir up the crap…
God to see you posting and good to see you stirring the muck a bit. You’re doing something I intended to do along time back and sort of drifted away from, think I will rededicate myself for a while.
I tried to leave a comment for Chris on his site, but it wouldn’t stay up long enough to even get to the pop unders. I noted his rational and polite rebuttal here, but couldn’t help but notice how he took you to task for saying something you didn’t say.
Not only did you not call his review site a “scam”, you specific said it was “not” a scam. I did a search. That’s the only place outside other people’s comments that the word “scam” is ever used.
We all make errors in reading comprehension … I think I am in the running for world’s best at that ‘bad”, but isn’t it strange that a guy who otherwise seems smart and well in command of the language would make _that_ particular error in reading?
Couldn’t possibly be a twinge of conscience now could it?
Dave,
My thoughts exactly and I’ll get to answering Chris and the Anonymous comment in due course. Haven’t decided whether to use one or two barrels yet…
Just a note – found you in the spam bin, better give Askimet a holler and get things fixed.
(Probably Chris flagged you – doesn’t say much about his motives huh? – wonder if he appreciates the fact that I posted his comment?)
Don’t say everything fake man. I am not going to tell you which site I own from those review sites but I have written everything as it is, that is included in the product. And also recommended that this product is for newbies only.
First Read Then Speak.
Unknown
lol! Here they come. Hey ‘Unknown’ and Chris – “just how much can a noob be milked for anyway?”
Come on Griz, it’s not a POS if you recommend it for noobs only. lol. Who’s gonna write the TTA is a Scam Review post so that we can all send links to it and rank it?
Hey Milker
Great to see you out and about as well. Yeah, we all know that “it’s for noobs only” is code for “the only way I can make coin is to sell shit to people who don’t know any better” – I’m just having a hard time believing these folks actually used that line… to us! Speechless!
hahaha.
Gonna be hard for someone (or an anonymous someone) to screech in here and create any degree of flaming blog world controversy. Everyone ‘d probably just yawn.
Yaaaaaaaawn….
er, what was that Jo?
Unknown,
The fact that you show up here anonymously says it all. You don’t want to be held accountable for what you do online. You simply prove my case.
Sad.
This is not the reason man. I can tell you who I am. I own google adwords company with more than $30,000 dollar per month spend of my clients. The first site belongs to me. I use to explain almost all the blind sales page products. Daily I receive a lot of emails of thank you for saving their money. I know most of the people write affiliate reviews but I always try to keep it informative so people can make informed decision.
See the TTA product page is saying no article writing no classified ads, no video marketing, no blogging etc but these all things are in the product and I have clearly explained on my blog.
No more “Unknown”
Jawad
So, wait – are your “lessons” going to be at GrizzlyBrears or…? You have 3 sites now and I’m not sure which you’ll be using. Are you planning on laying it out:
Site A = Topic A
Site B = etc.
No matter, I s’pose, I can always ask Tracey.
James,
internetmarketinglessons.ca
and yes Tracey is my go to gal!
Great, to see you again. I actually saw that RC semi-outed on his untwisted vortex blog. Well be looking forward to hearing the story about the other site someday. I have purchased some of those products and always been dissappointed. Matter of fact, because of your absence I almost got sucked in again. :O)
Great to hear about your success with consulting. You certainly proved your mettle and deserve the referrals.
My only beef with what you wrote is about keeping it to yourself. Kudos for you for giving so much away for free, but as you pointed out you are now consulting and getting paid to do it. Of course you are also getting results which is why you keep getting paid.
It is okay to get paid to provide information as long as the information is actually something worth paying for (produces results). It is okay to be paid when you are providing a service that has value.
It isn’t okay to prey on the newbies and desperate which sadly is what MMO and MLM
are known for.
Hey Bank Man,
Long time no hear. Amen to that.
That’s a helluva niche you picked – are you making any progress?
Very slow progress, but mostly because I have a couple of clients that I do computer programming for and they keep me very busy. I also have a full-time job in another industry so I’m just not able to spend the time I would like. However, the adsense pays for the hosting and them a little bit more so I post here and there.
With the little extra I’ve bought some tools that make research and stuff a little easier.
It is a tough niche, but I also have a lot experience in the industry so that’s why I picked it.
I’m slowly just trying to build a little network of sites (very slowly), but having fun. I’ve found Hubpages, articles, and blog commenting helpful.
cd :O)
Hi Grizzly,
I didn’t know you had me as scum until I read on someone else’s page. How do you know I’m scum anyway? I don’t think we’ve met.
Anyway maybe you should see this https://vitavee.com/forums/thread-1553.html
Did you even read my reviw? My review clearly states that there is nothing new in the course. Had I known this beforehand I would not have even promoted it at all.
I see you simply picked everyone who was on the front page for this. I decided to promote this product because I saw a lot well known people were going to promote it. I didn’t get access to the course until a day or two before launch. When I saw the course, I decided to not give it such a glowing review.
I was going to promote Mass Cash Coverup until I saw it. Another trash course. Traffic Siphon? I was ranked high for it to and you can see what I put on my review page here. https://corinzander.com/reviews/traffic-generation/traffic-siphon/traffic-siphon-review
Perhaps you can join our forum here https://vitavee.com/forums/thread-1554.html and you will see the kind of things that I subscribe to. Read some of my posts, my reputation is stellar there and go to great pains to help as many people as I can.
Will you post my comment?
Jack (Corin Zander)
Jack,
Of course I will post it. It was in the spam bin FYI.
I’ve pretty much had my say on the matter and Milker has pretty much summed up any reply I would give you but I’ll add this;
Jack I make money online selling hearing aids to people who need hearing aids – actually I send them to an Audiologist in their area and they buy the hearing aids from them.
I write about how this is done – openly – for free – and have never sold the info in an ebook. In fact I have never sold my readers a thing. I don’t know what my rep is but I do know I have a lot of friends and emails out the ying yang thanking me for the help.
You sell IM crap to IM noobs. Read my answer to Chris above for the rest of the sermon.
Why you thought I wouldn’t publish your comment is a bit of a head scratch-er…
Thanks for dropping in and having your say.
Jack,
You seem to have missed the whole point of this post (and the whole point of Griz’s MMOFB blog.) Making money by exploiting the hopes and dreams of noobs is a really crappy thing to do to your fellow human beings. No matter how wonderful you say your intentions are, no matter how ‘truthful’ you say your reviews are, you are still scum for trying to take money from people who don’t know any better. Why don’t you just go jack purses from grandmothers, or steal kids lunch money … it’s the same thing. All you do is rank for programs that are designed to remove noobs from their money, and then ‘review’ them. I lost so much money to people like you when I was starting out … because I trusted your reviews. You are a classic IM scum sucker!
To quote from your ‘review’, “However if you are already an experienced marketer there really is nothing here for you.” So why review and promote this product? Is it because noobs are easy money? If this is not such a great program as you seem to imply above, then why promote it with your wonderful, amazing, jaw-dropping 10 bonuses?!? “So if you really want kick ass rankings you will need my bonus…” Ya – right! All this BS is just for noobs – suck ‘em in, remove the money from their pockets and spit them out. Scum-sucker!
The question has been asked here before, “how much can a noob me milked for anyway?” It would seem that you are the type IM’er that could actually answer that question.
P.S. Nothing says ‘trust agent’ like a pop-under when you try to leave a site – like a swift kick in the ass when you try to leave. Classy.
C’mon Milker – pop-unders always make me appreciate the site even more. I love having my browser hijacked. In fact I can’t wait to go back and give them money…
Well said.
First my bonuses aren’t plr stuff like grizzly said it was. Also my site isn’t listed as having a bad reputation on WOT.
My bonuses are something that I’ve worked hard to create. I give them out to anyone who buys anything on my site. I believe they are worth more than most of the products that are out there. I show how I’ve been able to get ranking in Google and am also willing to help anyone all the time as much as I can.
The exit pop up.. yeah it’s something that I’ve struggled with to tell you the truth as I started a thread about it here: https://vitavee.com/forums/thread-1415.html
In the end I was persuaded that it was ok after all. Maybe it is maybe it isn’t, maybe it’s a matter of opinion.
I do try my best to tell the truth about these products while still trying to feed my kids. Sometimes, with some of these products, you just aren’t sure until the last minute as in this case. With Mass Cash Coverup I knew enough ahead of time to dump the promotion of it. With this one, it was too late. And same with Traffic Siphon.
I posted Chad’s comment about the course on my review page and on the forum before I knew about this post.
I don’t appreciate being called a scum especially by people who don’t know me. There are a lot of people who will tell you differently about that.
Jack
This is your problem: I do try my best to tell the truth about these products while still trying to feed my kids.”
It’s a total conflict of interest for you. Your kids are more important than the noobs you are feeding on – so you are willing to sell them bogus junk. This has nothing to do with your crappy bonuses – or pop-unders or any of the other junk you do – it’s about selling noobs something they don’t need while promising them that what you are selling is ALL they will need to succeed online. It’s a total lie. You’ve sold your soul to the IM devil and now you have to justify it by putting your children out in front as a shield. “I’m just doing it for the children…” Cry me a river!
The thing is – you clearly put work into what you do … and you clearly have some time on your hands – if you followed what Griz does, you could make a much better living in fairly short order doing things that help humanity rather than leaching off of them.
Nobody here knows you – we only know what you do. What you do is leech off of humanity, and that is pretty scummy – hence, you are scum. Be proud of what you are … or change.
You don’t know what I do. Yes, my kids are more important to me than anything. But I don’t sell my soul to the devil. You see one thing by one person and you think you know all about me. You don’t. I don’t feed off anybody. How do you know my bonuses are crappy? have you seen them? no you haven’t.
I can’t believe you still think I simply feed off noobs. I’ve spent more time helping noobs than most people have. That’s ridiculous.
Griz, I just noticed your reply to my original comment.
I’m sure it was in spam because of the word scum. Otherwise I have no idea.
Believe it or not there are good IM products out there. I have personally been sick of the lack of them lately. Or more precisely the overabundance of bad ones.
I just wasn’t sure if you would post it because I was defending myself and thought I had made a good case of it by proving my reputation by referencing the forum.
But I can see here that it doesn’t matter what I say here. I can’t convince you guys of anything because you seem to have a preconceived notion about anyone promoting IM products.
Hello Mr. B or may I call you Grizz.
This is my first post to you and first of all I would like to thank you so much for all the great information you provide to all of us would-be internet marketers, like many people I found your blogspot by accident one day and knew immediately that I had at last found someone willing to share their wealth of knowledge for free, to help people like myself, who have found themselves in a fairly desperate situation, of job redundancy, zero income and zero work prospects, one of the few alternatives being the internet.
Personally I started from scratch three months ago knowing nothing about the internet apart from email and a little ebaying, as you will appreciate it is so hard when there is nobody to help you, sure a lot of stuff you can find on the net, the problem is you don’t know it’s the right stuff. You read one article by a so-called expert which seems to make sense, start researching something and then have the whole idea contradicted by another ‘expert’ somewhere else.
I wish I had found your blogger blog at the very beginning, I know it was a little dated but most of what you had written was pure gold, I was half way through reading it when POOF! it had gone, it was pretty devastating, as it appeared to be very white hat, My first thought was that you had deleted it as you were talking of an update, but then I wondered why you would do that to a successful blog, free or not, then the penny dropped with a loud clunk.
Which brings me round to another big obstacle for us beginners and that’s having no clue about doing the wrong thing, in all innocence, and not knowing that this could be having a very detrimental effect on our efforts, especially with G.
I am so glad you are on a scambusting campaign against these ******* who keep peddling garbage to people like myself, I hope they don’t sell a single copy.
Many weeks ago I cottoned on to the fake review thing by noticing that nobody actually said much about the product they were reviewing and were more interested in giving you $3000 worth of bonuses if you bought through them, another sure sign of a scam?
In my first two weeks online I bought a few IM products using up some of my meagre budget, everyone needs a starting point right?, it then took me a further two weeks of studying these products to realise I wasn’t going to get rich anytime soon, because in that time I also came to the conclusion that they are nearly all a rehash, everything has the same, same M.O., same sales pitch, same copywriting, same squeeze pages, same videos, same upsells, downsells, followups etc. Yes, they certainly know how to do a job on people who don’t know any better, if these gurus make as much money from their CB accounts as they claim, why do they do it? it is so mean and unscrupulous, i can only assume they are just motivated by pure greed.
It is so hard just trying to get a start in the first place, there is just so much to try and learn, before one can even think about making a living, I knew it was going to be especially hard for me and also knew it would take a long time before seeing any results, although I will never forget the night I made my very first (and only) sale on Clickbank, my hopes rose a little, but were then dashed as the next 38 PPC clicks saw the profit disappear into a big loss. Later to find out FB ads don’t convert well and if you are not careful you can lose your shirt with PPC (I think you said that in your blog). too late.
I would have sent you an email but I know you probably wouldn’t answer as you said you got so many you had to stop, and may not even get to read it.
I know your time is precious and please forgive my waffling on, I also know you do not care for individuals circumstances too, and neither could you possibly be expected to, but I am overwhelmed by your generosity of spirit and your desire to help others less fortunate than you, my greatest wish apart from making enough money to look after my lady is to one day be able to do the same.
God bless you Grizz and your beautiful wife and daughter, they are very lucky ladies.
Kindest regards
Graham
P.S. the Twitter page is great, I can just picture me in that boat holding on to a 50 pound Musky.
PPS
I have sent my site url, I know it’s not great but it’s my first one and put in hundreds of hours setting it up, although it’s not finished yet as I’m still adding stuff, It’s been live about a month but zero sales yet despite over 1000 visits, maybe I am flogging a dead horse, and it did make Google’s front page position 5, with a gold star entry at the very top above everything, but it was only there 2 days now its nowhere, and I have no idea why, do you think I may be in the sandbox for putting up too many pages too quickly?
Graham,
You’re not in the sandbox and you don’t get penalized for putting up too many pages to fast. You have 25 pages indexed to date. You are just experiencing the G dance that all new sites and new posts go through. It is normal to see a post do well in the serps initially (fresh content) and then see it drop back as other factors take over – age, authority, links, competition etc. Your content is all original, bravo, so just keep posting, work on a natural link profile and be patient.
Griz,
nuthin’ but fun but I am thinking of doing a vid gust post for you. if you decide not to use it, not a big deal, I can always find places to slog it. in any case, I think I can be creative and get some laughs and subs to my new YouTube channel at the same time while “enriching” the overall content here.
I will hit you up,
AL
Al,
I would love a guest vid from you – love the green screen stuff. Such a techie Al – I couldn’t take a picture with a mobile phone (if I owned one). Hit me up!
Nothing like a little emotional nudge to punch up the word count and longtails.
Hi Grizz!
Hey Norm
Long time – new site I see. Maybe you can tell me how to edit my META widget! lol
Hope business is good and really nice to see you are still with us as well.
Hey Griz,
As always I’m late to the party. Good to see you using this old site for something worthwhile! I think everyone else has said everything that can be said, so this is just to let you know I’m still here and so is the Shed if you need a place to talk. There are still a few of us die-hards in there hatchin our evil plots to take over the world lmao!
Take care and hi to J and the girls
Terry
Hey Terry old friend… you are late because living in Spain you haven’t stopped drinking with all the Spanish success this year. You’d almost think the World Cup means something. Until you beat us at Hockey I’m not impressed.
So you hooligans are still conspiring in the shed huh? Maybe its time to drop in and see what kind of shenanigans you’ve been up to? I know you aren’t wikileaks but maybe the anonymous visa/MC/paypal attackers??
Great to hear from ya’ Terry!
Well i was asked to review the product ‘total traffic annihilation’ by one of my website members. To this end i bought the product via Clickbank. After that i was directed through about 5 attempted up sells before eventually getting to the members login page. I did not receive any login details either. I then used the forgot password option on the login page. A user id and password were sent to mailbox. However they don’t work and i still can’t access this product. I have emailed the vendor and opened a Clickbank ticket, so will wait till after the weekend to see if this is resolved.
And there was I thinking that “Total Traffic Annihilation” was going to be the answer to my prayers for instant-overnight-riches-without-lifting-a-finger. Your post is like telling me that Santa doesn’t exist (please tell me he does). But on the upside, I’ve saved my money, so now I can spend it on “Turbo Obliteration Google Profit Sniper Avalanche” instead. That’s gotta be the real deal.
Watch it, Rex. I’ve been on Turbo all year…
I think I’ll instead write the ebook, “How To Plagiarize Drivel And Milk Its Golden Teets,” and then include a bonus of “Multiply Them Udders To Udderly Destroy Your Competition: Copy and Paste Success.” Why think when you can Ctrl + C / Ctrl + V your way to the top?
Or maybe I’ll just buy Turbo Obliteration Google Profit Sniper Avalanche…you’re so ahead of me.
Forget Turbo. I just need some coffee. Just realized my editing sucked rotten eggs.
Hi Grizz,
Thanks for taking the trouble to look at my site and answer my question, so I will keep plugging away and see what happens, if nothing else, it has certainly helped me learn a lot.
Having read the comment above from Rex it was a source of much merriment, therefore I would like to ask him if he or anyone else bought the:
“Underground Autopilot Clickbank CashProfit Blogging Hijack Millionare Minisite Membership Glitch Copycat Pro Formula Loophole Traffic Empire Meltdown Samurai Afilliate System…2010″
and if so did they make any money with it?
Re: Milkers comments above, thanks guy, you don’t hold nothing back do you, good, they deserve it, and may all their teeth fall out! lol
Hi, Graham!
Yes. I bought it, I bought it!
The box looks incredibly and totally awesome here on the shelf.
So far, unfortunately, (really bummed about this!), I’ve no good news to report about it’s effectiveness.
However, that being said, I’m still hopeful…….
You need to buy the platinum version. Oh, and the monthly membership of course.
Hi Graham (and Grizz).
Now I know that “Underground Autopilot Clickbank Cash…” is available, and JC Palmetto says it has a great box, I’ve instantly forgotten about whatever that other product I was going to get was, and will get that instead. Unless of course something even more bright and shiny is waved in front of my eyeballs in the meantime…
Seriously, it is kind of difficult to understand how anyone could fall for the totally blatant ‘review’ scam. As if anyone who has gone to the trouble of buying https://www.undergroundautopilotclickbankcash.._review.com, arranged hosting and put up his/her dismal little wordpress website on the day of the ‘launch’ is going to say “Nah – pile of crap. Don’t bother”. But I guess that when people see all those fake Clickbank income screenshots and the $3,000 bonuses, they start drooling on their keyboards and common sense just goes out of the window.
The ones I like are where the title on the serps says “Don’t Buy Scamtastic3000 Supercash Generator! It is a SCAM!” and then you go to the site and it actually tries to get you to buy the thing, with pop ups and all… bah.
Wow! You know it’s nearly Christmas when you get a post from Grizz lol
Glad to hear from you again, been a “fan” for a while but have never commented before.
BTW, does anyone still use “Niche Support”?
ei Grizz, good to see you updating this site.. and also thanks for exposing those Total Traffic Annihilation Fake Reviews that sitting mostly on top of G (that’s why they had the advantage on milking noobs like me.)
And also my other email acct has tons of garbage mail promoting the same product(again, noobs like to sign up if there are freebies). =)
btw, your twit about the Total Traffic Annihilation Fake Reviews is landed on the first page of G (440thou results), although it’s still not on the top but its getting there… =)
and lastly, congrats for getting good on making this site a kinda resemblance of the old MMOFB site…
cheers,
ariston
Nice to see you back Griz,
Your blogs were the complete eye openings I needed. Thanks for all the information you have given out to help us all succeed.
I look forward to reading your new blog and hearing about your adventures.
Hey Griz,
It’s good to have you back.
Hey Griz,
I just emailed you about one of your niches…
hello Griz,
It is just great to see you posting again, though on many blogs at a time. I would request you to give a list of IM tools you use (your recommendation will be a great help).
(of course your affiliate link will not be a problem for us all
)
thanks
Hi Grizz,
I have just about stopped laughing at the very excellent “Turbo Obliteration Google Profit Sniper Avalanche”
and the much underrated “Underground Autopilot Clickbank CashProfit Blogging Hijack Millionare Minisite Membership Glitch Copycat Pro Formula Loophole Traffic Empire Meltdown Samurai Afilliate System…2010″ ( I see that is now a link, maybe it’s worth registering the .com?) and noticed nobody has posted much lately so maybe if you get time you could give me/us your opinion of so-called link wheels, I spent a fair amount of time researching this myself and got three definite and different answers.
1. Link every site in the wheel to everything else in a loop, including the money site.
2. Do the above but leave some links open, to break the loop.
3. Do not use a link wheel at all, it could be classed as a black hat technique by G and the money site could suffer because of it.
All three definitions put forward seem convincing, the concern is choosing the wrong option, and either being at a big disadvantage, or getting penalised and not knowing it,
your view would be much appreciated.
Hi Grizz,
Just had this drop in my inbox from the “man of many emails” I expect you’re already aware but it looks like the usual to me “Turbo Commissions” is the name of the product, and just like TTA is has many crap review pages, but there seems to be a lot of them so maybe this has been out a while, anyway I thought I would bring it to everyone’s attention.
Oh man. I know about you. I should pay more attention to you. Holy s*it, I hope I haven’t just wasted months and dollars. No…it’s not possible. Well, maybe.
THANK YOU for your straightforward and honest writings. I will be reading all I can.
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